I am suprised that his species evolved into a humanoids. One would think that there would be some psychical (stance etc) differences betewen species from a planet with normal (Earth) gravity and planet with 20 times more gravity.
Random theory of my own as to the whole Good Girl /Bad Good Girl mystery:
Before her run-in with the near-sighted priest, GG was exactly normal – equal parts good and evil. So when the exorcism made her “extra good” the evil would have had to have gone somewhere. Instead of being shoved out into wherever demons/abstract bits of evil are supposed to go, it was shoved inwards into somewhere at the back of GG’s head. Now the bits of good and evil are sharply divided into separate personas which actively repel and combat each other, where they had previously been harmlessly mixed into an average human personality. When the Gloria is on, GG is dominant, but the Gloria always has to come off eventually or else BGG might force her way out to the general effect of a steam engine without a pressure release valve.
(translation: I spend way too much time thinking about random and pointless things)
@Critic:
Unfortunately the life expectansy of the average hero in Shitropolis is not very long. Then again, death is not that serious a condition in a superhero world:)
Hopefully we’ll return to a happier subject soon.
@Lemi:
The only thing you really need to know about Good Girl/Bad Good Girl is that she looks cute in a short skirt, am I right? I’m right. ;)
@Lemi,
Essentially my thoughts, but I think originally GG was a girl who was mostly good. The unnecessary exorcism re-enforced the good at the cost of dividing her personality.
I think the gloria (her halo) is an artifact of the exorcism, which is why it has an effect on other people. It is the “lock” so to speak. When GG takes it off she becomes Good-Bad Girl.
I only spend my LOSR reading time thinking about any of this.
From the fact that he managed to jump about 1000 miles, and his dessicated corpse, I would imagine that he sweats profusely, requires a humid environment to replenish his lost fluids, and that his home planet’s atmosphere is still dense enough and contains enough water vapour at an altitude of 50 miles to enable him to survive, usually.
@RBZ
Actually, what he’s saying is he cannot jump that high on his own planet, but that his musculature is much more powerful than most humans.
@landbark
You have a very good point. Humans (sans tails) evolved because our gravity was low enough to allow upright mobility without a balancing factor. On his planet, one would have to assume that either his skeletal structure is made out of something strong enough to withstand that much gravitational force, and his muscles are corded steel, or on his home planet, he walks on all fours and he is in fact double jointed.
If I remember correctly, Superman once actually was supposed not to be able to fly. Just to jump very high and far.
Or is that a misconception brought by the “can jump over a skyscraper” thing?
Regardless. Being used to 20 times the gravity, it gives testament to the solidness of his skin and organs that he isn’t simply bursting. ;)
I don’t know about the creators, but for my part I see this less as being dark and more as poking fun at some of the utterly stupid things in some superhero stories. And by utterly stupid I mean utterly fatal if the storyworld would function even halfway in the same way as our world.
Physics of Superheroes- the height he can jump on our planet should be about 20 times higher than he could jump on his own planet.
So if he could clear say, 52 inches on *his* planet, it would be something like 85 feet on ours.
Which is impressive but not what you’re looking for in a superhero. 20 g’s isn’t going to give you a strong enough alien race.
How many g’s do we need? Physics can be used to solve the problem. As it turns out, the Homeplanet gravity would need to be about *33 million* times higher than ours. Then he’d be strong enough to make an orbital jump from Earth.
Potential energy due to gravity U = mgh, and kinetic energy K = 0.5mv^2.
When the kinetic energy has been completely converted to potential energy U = K where K is the initial kinetic energy.
Therefore mgh = 0.5mv^2
Therefore v = sqrt(2gh)
To jump one meter on earth your starting velocity I think is 4.4m/s
To jump one meter under 20x earth gravity your starting velocity is 20m/s.
To jump ten meters the figures would be 14/ms and 62m/s, respectively.
Solving for h, h=v^2/2g.
So the earth heights that would result from these starting velocities are:
v=4.4m/s, h=1m
v=14m/s, h=10m
v=20m/s, h=20m
v=62ms/, h=200m
These figures in no way approach orbital or escape velocities.
For an animals that are able to jump to a given height on their planets their starting velocity can be stated as:
Vother = sqrt(2Gother*Hother)
The heights that velocity reaches on earth is then:
Hother(earth)
= Vother^2/2Gearth
= sqrt(2Gother*Hother)^2/2Gearth
= Gother*Hother/Gearth
Therefore:
Hother(earth) / Hother = Gother / Gearth
Which is to say that the ratio of the height an animal can jump on earth is equal to the ratio of gravitational acceleration between their home planet and earth. If gravity is 20x stronger on their planet they should be able to jump ~20x as high on our planet. Given they must be built to withstand the starting and stopping velocities on their home planet they should be able to cope with those same velocities on earth, so they should have sufficient endurance to make these 20x jumps.
And then since we’re talking about such huge distances to be jumping, there’s the issue of air deceleration.
According to Newton’s impact depth formula, a projectile(the alien) can only penetrate a substance(the air) so far. That depth is the length of the projectile times its density, divided by the density of the substance.
Assuming that he’s as dense as water(like a human) and 6’4”(arbitrary guess), he should only be capable of going about 250 feet up, REGARDLESS of his starting speed. I assumed that the air has a constant density of 24.51kg/m^3, although that is not true in practice.
Very few things can escape Earth without a rocket behind them, when you take air into account.
Oh, man! With so many scientfic statements about gravity and vaporizing of tissues, why nobody stated the obvious: astronauts lose bone and muscle consistency in low gravity and so would this guy… if this was not a cartoon.
Luckily for us… it is. And the first law of cartoon physics is: laws of physics work… until it’s funny otherwise. And this was fun. :D
you know…his race probably EVOLVED to be adapted to the gravity on it…I mean he IS an alien after-all…so yeah….stop your science stuff and realize that this is a COMIC about SUPERHEROES and HUMOR
I’m surprised his circulatory fluids didn’t simply vaporize upon decompression.
I am suprised that his species evolved into a humanoids. One would think that there would be some psychical (stance etc) differences betewen species from a planet with normal (Earth) gravity and planet with 20 times more gravity.
Still I love this webcomic :)
Two death comics back to back not really a fan of the change of pace.
Don’t you just hate a show off! :D
Random theory of my own as to the whole Good Girl /Bad Good Girl mystery:
Before her run-in with the near-sighted priest, GG was exactly normal – equal parts good and evil. So when the exorcism made her “extra good” the evil would have had to have gone somewhere. Instead of being shoved out into wherever demons/abstract bits of evil are supposed to go, it was shoved inwards into somewhere at the back of GG’s head. Now the bits of good and evil are sharply divided into separate personas which actively repel and combat each other, where they had previously been harmlessly mixed into an average human personality. When the Gloria is on, GG is dominant, but the Gloria always has to come off eventually or else BGG might force her way out to the general effect of a steam engine without a pressure release valve.
(translation: I spend way too much time thinking about random and pointless things)
That is a good idea. Mine is that her Gloria leeches out her natural goodness to keep running, but I’d get behind this one too.
@Critic:
Unfortunately the life expectansy of the average hero in Shitropolis is not very long. Then again, death is not that serious a condition in a superhero world:)
Hopefully we’ll return to a happier subject soon.
@Lemi:
The only thing you really need to know about Good Girl/Bad Good Girl is that she looks cute in a short skirt, am I right? I’m right. ;)
@Lemi,
Essentially my thoughts, but I think originally GG was a girl who was mostly good. The unnecessary exorcism re-enforced the good at the cost of dividing her personality.
I think the gloria (her halo) is an artifact of the exorcism, which is why it has an effect on other people. It is the “lock” so to speak. When GG takes it off she becomes Good-Bad Girl.
I only spend my LOSR reading time thinking about any of this.
Would this hero be offensive if his insignia was turned upside down?
@Nightmarewarden
No, sideways
From the fact that he managed to jump about 1000 miles, and his dessicated corpse, I would imagine that he sweats profusely, requires a humid environment to replenish his lost fluids, and that his home planet’s atmosphere is still dense enough and contains enough water vapour at an altitude of 50 miles to enable him to survive, usually.
@RBZ
Actually, what he’s saying is he cannot jump that high on his own planet, but that his musculature is much more powerful than most humans.
@landbark
You have a very good point. Humans (sans tails) evolved because our gravity was low enough to allow upright mobility without a balancing factor. On his planet, one would have to assume that either his skeletal structure is made out of something strong enough to withstand that much gravitational force, and his muscles are corded steel, or on his home planet, he walks on all fours and he is in fact double jointed.
Let’s hope he was popular enough, so this applies:
And then they got sued by Nintendo.
…
Because he’s jumpman.
…
That was Mario’s name before he was Mario.
If I remember correctly, Superman once actually was supposed not to be able to fly. Just to jump very high and far.
Or is that a misconception brought by the “can jump over a skyscraper” thing?
Regardless. Being used to 20 times the gravity, it gives testament to the solidness of his skin and organs that he isn’t simply bursting. ;)
Wow, going rather dark lately, huh? Had a bad breakup or something? ^.^
@Lukkai,
Yes, in the beginning Superman did not fly, nor have eye blasts or super cooling breath. That was quite a while ago.
I don’t know about the creators, but for my part I see this less as being dark and more as poking fun at some of the utterly stupid things in some superhero stories. And by utterly stupid I mean utterly fatal if the storyworld would function even halfway in the same way as our world.
Physics of Superheroes- the height he can jump on our planet should be about 20 times higher than he could jump on his own planet.
So if he could clear say, 52 inches on *his* planet, it would be something like 85 feet on ours.
Which is impressive but not what you’re looking for in a superhero. 20 g’s isn’t going to give you a strong enough alien race.
How many g’s do we need? Physics can be used to solve the problem. As it turns out, the Homeplanet gravity would need to be about *33 million* times higher than ours. Then he’d be strong enough to make an orbital jump from Earth.
To expand on Grant’s input…
Potential energy due to gravity U = mgh, and kinetic energy K = 0.5mv^2.
When the kinetic energy has been completely converted to potential energy U = K where K is the initial kinetic energy.
Therefore mgh = 0.5mv^2
Therefore v = sqrt(2gh)
To jump one meter on earth your starting velocity I think is 4.4m/s
To jump one meter under 20x earth gravity your starting velocity is 20m/s.
To jump ten meters the figures would be 14/ms and 62m/s, respectively.
Solving for h, h=v^2/2g.
So the earth heights that would result from these starting velocities are:
v=4.4m/s, h=1m
v=14m/s, h=10m
v=20m/s, h=20m
v=62ms/, h=200m
These figures in no way approach orbital or escape velocities.
For an animals that are able to jump to a given height on their planets their starting velocity can be stated as:
Vother = sqrt(2Gother*Hother)
The heights that velocity reaches on earth is then:
Hother(earth)
= Vother^2/2Gearth
= sqrt(2Gother*Hother)^2/2Gearth
= Gother*Hother/Gearth
Therefore:
Hother(earth) / Hother = Gother / Gearth
Which is to say that the ratio of the height an animal can jump on earth is equal to the ratio of gravitational acceleration between their home planet and earth. If gravity is 20x stronger on their planet they should be able to jump ~20x as high on our planet. Given they must be built to withstand the starting and stopping velocities on their home planet they should be able to cope with those same velocities on earth, so they should have sufficient endurance to make these 20x jumps.
Neat. Thanks.
Maybe he also had superpowers on his planet.
And then since we’re talking about such huge distances to be jumping, there’s the issue of air deceleration.
According to Newton’s impact depth formula, a projectile(the alien) can only penetrate a substance(the air) so far. That depth is the length of the projectile times its density, divided by the density of the substance.
Assuming that he’s as dense as water(like a human) and 6’4”(arbitrary guess), he should only be capable of going about 250 feet up, REGARDLESS of his starting speed. I assumed that the air has a constant density of 24.51kg/m^3, although that is not true in practice.
Very few things can escape Earth without a rocket behind them, when you take air into account.
Oh, man! With so many scientfic statements about gravity and vaporizing of tissues, why nobody stated the obvious: astronauts lose bone and muscle consistency in low gravity and so would this guy… if this was not a cartoon.
Luckily for us… it is. And the first law of cartoon physics is: laws of physics work… until it’s funny otherwise. And this was fun. :D
This becomes insanely funnier when you see how cartoony and child friendly his appearance is, and how pants-shit-ingly realistic the decomposition is.
you know…his race probably EVOLVED to be adapted to the gravity on it…I mean he IS an alien after-all…so yeah….stop your science stuff and realize that this is a COMIC about SUPERHEROES and HUMOR
Nah.