That makes sense, the X-Men also had people that erased most forms of pollution, and could eat ionizing radiation. Then there were people like Forge, that bounce around all the different comic series, and can create anything you can even vaguely describe, even if you’re drunk when you give the description.
And this is why gadgeteer geniuses are murder for any sort of believable world building.
“This guy can build a warpdrive from a box of scraps, yet we still have no flying cars”
Now imagine having dozens of those.
Actually the superhero series Wearing the Cape had a pretty good explanation for the super tech problem. Super tech isn’t real. It is an extension of the gadgeteer’s powers. Ergo, it is not a repeatable phenomenon except by the gadgeteer. The author further added the stipulation that even if the gadgeteer explained his process to another gadgeteer, he still would not be able to reproduce the tech. He might be able to make something that does the same thing but it would work and look different and maybe even operate on a separate set of physics from the first device.
It’s the same with gadgeteers in the Wild Cards novels. In one case, a device was opened and found to contain several doll torsos and an apple core. In another, a device contained a drawing of circuitry and no actual electronics. When the inventor of the Modular Man android was reinfected with a new strain of the Wild Card virus and mutated again, he lost the ability to repair and maintain the android.
While I don’t know much about RR, I can see two explanations for why no Stark-tech everywhere. First, it could be horrendously expensive. The guy’s a billionaire, and can afford to spend millions on a thing. Second, it could very well be unreliable. Most of his suits last for part of a movie, and could need major replacements or re-tuning every few days.
His supersuits aren’t everywhere.
But Stark Enterprises has to be able to sell stuff in order to be solvent. You won’t be a billionair by selling junk.
And yes, he sold weapons first, but after IM1 he went into new tech and still made a lot of money.
The cartoon, and I think the comics, had all the villain powersuits based off the iron man tech. Stark goes around frying all the powersuits he can find that match his technology, some of them were more closely bonded to the wearer than his suits, so some people get badly maimed.
The webserial Worm has something similar, though the technology is partially real and can be studied enough that it caused a tech boom in the world it can never be replicated because even the Tinkers don’t understand everything at play as their power subtly influence them to pick and modify materials in ridiculously precise ways without them even realizing it, if the power doesn’t outright supply energy/materials in order for the thing to work.
Or like the gear that Ork Mekboyz build in WH40K. It only works because there are enough greenskins around it that believe it works. It shouldn’t work at all … and if it falls into the hands of any other races, it falls apart.
Space 1889 had this. It was a great support player type. The one restriction was that there could only be one of any particular gadget. You see, after it’s been created, it’s boring.
I’m guessing none of ya have ever read the many whateley academy stories. It’s a long running group of stories about mutants. In that universe devisor’s make the stuff that only devisors can understand. They have gadgeeter’s but the gadgeteers are the ones that can make stuff the everyday person can use and can take a devisor’s thing n make it to where others can use it(if the prodject is meant to be mass marketed)
Well, today people know how to make planes, but I do not have one. Same thing with Space Vehicles an Ocean Liners. Super rich people in MU have flying cars.
The Aberrant RPG by White Wolf did this ok. Hypertech made by Novas did indeed cause rapid changes to the world and its overall tech level skyrocketed. They cleaned up the environment, turned parts of the Sahara into a rainforest, pulled people out of poverty all over the world, etc etc. But because happy stories are boring, it all eventually fell apart anyway.
I’m trying to think this through and it really depends on how her powers work at range but the heat will still be here she’s just going to stop the weather from incorporating it, I think the heat would still rise so whenever she’s not actively controlling the weather it would act as normal.
The root of the problem is the altered atmospheric composition boosting the results of sunlight falling on the planet.
Unless she’s mistress of planet-wide air chemistry, Gale gets to fight the power of the sun until she wears herself out or the problem grows beyond her control.
Not really, you’re only looking for materials that bond together, at higher altitudes. We can’t do it, but someone that feels the wind with their mind, would be able to sift through that.
Greenhouse gasses is the wrong approach. Far too much chemistry. Do clouds instead – increased cloud cover over the day side reduces heat absorbed, reduced cloud cover over the night side increases heat loss.
The character this is based on has that power.
The crux is the level of control.
In her powerset, she burns more calories preventing death and damage than the actual effect shes going for.
Once she was in a hurry and disrupted the entire southern hemispere.
Another time Doom coated her in metal and she covered his country in a lightning storm.
If she didn’t care and didn’t focus her powers, her flying would flatten houses, her lightning would be blasting her target and everything around that target,….
(putting away my soap box and putting on my “normal person” disquise.)
It seems to me that, since every superhero universe has villains with freeze-ray technology, that they should just grab that tech and use it to make giant freezing installations at the poles (and mobile ones to shut down hurricanes and typhoons). It would make more sense.
Well, remember, most of the time it’s “let’s steal a whole lot of very expensive hi-tech to make us a weird-ass cold ray gun”. Economically it only makes sense if you’re stealing.
Depends on the comic, some cold rays work the pseudo science way, of quickly evaporating out heat. So you blast something, and it freezes solid, but something else is vaporized by the displaced heat.
“THE government” ?
Why not “YOUR government” ?
Or “The U.S. government” ?
Saying “THE government” implies that there’s just one. Is there just one? This comic has been ongoing for so long I don’t remember if there’s more than 1 unified country in that world.
When I talk about The Government I mean the government where I live. When talking to friends I seldom have to “country qualify” discussions about the government with our own country, unless we talk about foreign countries like USA or China.
It was actually established fairly early in Storm’s history that she doesn’t conjure weather (ala Thor) but manipulate the existing atmosphere. If she tried to do anything more than a flash storm (say, to snuff a fire), she’d do more harm than good, as she’d knock the surrounding area for a loop, weather wise, in the process.
Granted, this isn’t “exactly” Storm, so her powers might be different.
I often wondered about things like this. Ice Man could help repair or replace the melting polar ice caps. Cyclops could use his vision for laser eye surgery. Magneto could help erect the steel frames for buildings. But they all use their talents for fighting each other! They’ve been given these great gifts and they waste them punching people?! What the heck!
That makes sense, the X-Men also had people that erased most forms of pollution, and could eat ionizing radiation. Then there were people like Forge, that bounce around all the different comic series, and can create anything you can even vaguely describe, even if you’re drunk when you give the description.
And this is why gadgeteer geniuses are murder for any sort of believable world building.
“This guy can build a warpdrive from a box of scraps, yet we still have no flying cars”
Now imagine having dozens of those.
Actually the superhero series Wearing the Cape had a pretty good explanation for the super tech problem. Super tech isn’t real. It is an extension of the gadgeteer’s powers. Ergo, it is not a repeatable phenomenon except by the gadgeteer. The author further added the stipulation that even if the gadgeteer explained his process to another gadgeteer, he still would not be able to reproduce the tech. He might be able to make something that does the same thing but it would work and look different and maybe even operate on a separate set of physics from the first device.
It’s the same with gadgeteers in the Wild Cards novels. In one case, a device was opened and found to contain several doll torsos and an apple core. In another, a device contained a drawing of circuitry and no actual electronics. When the inventor of the Modular Man android was reinfected with a new strain of the Wild Card virus and mutated again, he lost the ability to repair and maintain the android.
Good ideas, but they don’t work when people are able to reverse engineer the stuff made by Stark or Reed Richards
Unless their power is what lets them reverse-engineer it.
While I don’t know much about RR, I can see two explanations for why no Stark-tech everywhere. First, it could be horrendously expensive. The guy’s a billionaire, and can afford to spend millions on a thing. Second, it could very well be unreliable. Most of his suits last for part of a movie, and could need major replacements or re-tuning every few days.
Stark-tech isn’t everywhere because Stark hates it when someone reverse-engineers his tech. He actually killed someone over it.
His supersuits aren’t everywhere.
But Stark Enterprises has to be able to sell stuff in order to be solvent. You won’t be a billionair by selling junk.
And yes, he sold weapons first, but after IM1 he went into new tech and still made a lot of money.
The cartoon, and I think the comics, had all the villain powersuits based off the iron man tech. Stark goes around frying all the powersuits he can find that match his technology, some of them were more closely bonded to the wearer than his suits, so some people get badly maimed.
The webserial Worm has something similar, though the technology is partially real and can be studied enough that it caused a tech boom in the world it can never be replicated because even the Tinkers don’t understand everything at play as their power subtly influence them to pick and modify materials in ridiculously precise ways without them even realizing it, if the power doesn’t outright supply energy/materials in order for the thing to work.
Or like the gear that Ork Mekboyz build in WH40K. It only works because there are enough greenskins around it that believe it works. It shouldn’t work at all … and if it falls into the hands of any other races, it falls apart.
Space 1889 had this. It was a great support player type. The one restriction was that there could only be one of any particular gadget. You see, after it’s been created, it’s boring.
I’m guessing none of ya have ever read the many whateley academy stories. It’s a long running group of stories about mutants. In that universe devisor’s make the stuff that only devisors can understand. They have gadgeeter’s but the gadgeteers are the ones that can make stuff the everyday person can use and can take a devisor’s thing n make it to where others can use it(if the prodject is meant to be mass marketed)
Well, today people know how to make planes, but I do not have one. Same thing with Space Vehicles an Ocean Liners. Super rich people in MU have flying cars.
The Aberrant RPG by White Wolf did this ok. Hypertech made by Novas did indeed cause rapid changes to the world and its overall tech level skyrocketed. They cleaned up the environment, turned parts of the Sahara into a rainforest, pulled people out of poverty all over the world, etc etc. But because happy stories are boring, it all eventually fell apart anyway.
I’m trying to think this through and it really depends on how her powers work at range but the heat will still be here she’s just going to stop the weather from incorporating it, I think the heat would still rise so whenever she’s not actively controlling the weather it would act as normal.
The root of the problem is the altered atmospheric composition boosting the results of sunlight falling on the planet.
Unless she’s mistress of planet-wide air chemistry, Gale gets to fight the power of the sun until she wears herself out or the problem grows beyond her control.
Manipulate higher winds, to isolate the greenhouse gases, someone else can eliminate them if they are all in one place.
Selectively identifying and isolating gases from a gas mixture is something most people would call chemistry rather than weather.
Not really, you’re only looking for materials that bond together, at higher altitudes. We can’t do it, but someone that feels the wind with their mind, would be able to sift through that.
If she can actually tell the difference between molecular oxygen, carbon dioxide, and ozone (for a few examples), I’d say she has chemistry powers.
Greenhouse gasses is the wrong approach. Far too much chemistry. Do clouds instead – increased cloud cover over the day side reduces heat absorbed, reduced cloud cover over the night side increases heat loss.
Storm can indeed effect the Earth’s weather on a global scale, but usually only does it when she’s angry, incredibly frightened, or both.
The character this is based on has that power.
The crux is the level of control.
In her powerset, she burns more calories preventing death and damage than the actual effect shes going for.
Once she was in a hurry and disrupted the entire southern hemispere.
Another time Doom coated her in metal and she covered his country in a lightning storm.
If she didn’t care and didn’t focus her powers, her flying would flatten houses, her lightning would be blasting her target and everything around that target,….
(putting away my soap box and putting on my “normal person” disquise.)
Using weather control for personal-scale effects is like being a hairdresser whose only tool is a chainsaw.
I’ve seen videos about hairdressers who use axes and live fires to comb people’s hair. So this may not be the best analogy.
I always thought that Ororo could at least handle the wildfires out here in California.
Ummm… is that POTUS of the Shitropolis universe?
Or just the press secretary
You’re right, it’s Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I never knew what she looks like.
She’s scary!
Never saw a Randy Rainbow parody?
I think it’s supposed to be a caricature of Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
except it can’t be, this character is portrayed as a monster rather than the calm voice of reason SHS is against the radical left.
Oh fuck it’s Sarah Huckabee and she’s a supervillain there as well as here.
And you’re surprised, because…?
It seems to me that, since every superhero universe has villains with freeze-ray technology, that they should just grab that tech and use it to make giant freezing installations at the poles (and mobile ones to shut down hurricanes and typhoons). It would make more sense.
Refridgerator problem: These generate more heat than cold.
Comic book tech, remember? Realistic cooling systems simply move heat around, but comic-book tech creates weird-ass “cold rays”.
So many engineering problems could be solved with the ability to pull all-new natural laws out of one’s ass.
Well, remember, most of the time it’s “let’s steal a whole lot of very expensive hi-tech to make us a weird-ass cold ray gun”. Economically it only makes sense if you’re stealing.
Depends on the comic, some cold rays work the pseudo science way, of quickly evaporating out heat. So you blast something, and it freezes solid, but something else is vaporized by the displaced heat.
“THE government” ?
Why not “YOUR government” ?
Or “The U.S. government” ?
Saying “THE government” implies that there’s just one. Is there just one? This comic has been ongoing for so long I don’t remember if there’s more than 1 unified country in that world.
That’s just common shorthand for “the Federal Government”, although I think these uptight-looking agents would say that.
Because according to americans, there is only one government of note.
When I talk about The Government I mean the government where I live. When talking to friends I seldom have to “country qualify” discussions about the government with our own country, unless we talk about foreign countries like USA or China.
This is why tropes like “Reed Richards is Useless” and “Write Lex Luther a Check” exist.
+1
Luthor: “What did you do?! I could have saved the world.”
Superman: “If you wanted to, you would have done so, years ago.”
I loved that quote. Completely ruining Luthors ego in so few words
Especially, since it came right after Luthor not just power-tripping but also actually tripping on Superman’s powers.
It was actually established fairly early in Storm’s history that she doesn’t conjure weather (ala Thor) but manipulate the existing atmosphere. If she tried to do anything more than a flash storm (say, to snuff a fire), she’d do more harm than good, as she’d knock the surrounding area for a loop, weather wise, in the process.
Granted, this isn’t “exactly” Storm, so her powers might be different.
Well, as far as sources go (as in, “Marvel science”) mutation in humans is due to evolution of the genetic code, meaning science is indeed the source.
Of course, as we all know, Sanders (if that’s supposed to be her) is a liar, so it’s no surprise.
Sounds like something the government would do
Dunno… The times Storm’s powers work on a global scale tend to be far more… cataclysmic in nature.
If she can reduce the global tenperature by her will, she or someone else can raise it.
So, there’s no way to tell that nobody does do this..
For what reason, and on whose behalf, is left to the conspiration theorists to “find in”.
I often wondered about things like this. Ice Man could help repair or replace the melting polar ice caps. Cyclops could use his vision for laser eye surgery. Magneto could help erect the steel frames for buildings. But they all use their talents for fighting each other! They’ve been given these great gifts and they waste them punching people?! What the heck!